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Restricting access to  ALL_USERS
« on: Dec 19th, 2005, 2:38pm »
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Hello,
 
I've been given a very reasonable request to restrict a specific user from viewing other user accounts in the database -- specifically their account names.   I don't want the user to even know that their is a 'SYS', 'SCOTT', etc.  This could be done pretty easily with VPD using a view and an application context.    Unfortunately, this user has access to TOAD.    When a user starts schema browser in TOAD, it lists all the users in the database and we want to control what users (if any) the user can see.    
TOAD uses a query 'SELECT USERNAME FROM SYS.ALL_USERS' to generate this list.   The qualification of the view is what's killing me I believe.   I could create a view in the users schema named "ALL_USERS", but TOAD would circumvent this by qualifying it with 'SYS'.   Any ideas of where I'm going wrong with this would be greatly appreciated.
 
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I tried RLS, but received an error saying that objects owned by SYS cannot have policies created on them.  
 
Thanks,
 
Malcolm.
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Re: Restricting access to  ALL_USERS
« Reply #1 on: Dec 19th, 2005, 5:26pm »
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Dear Malcom
 
You could change the view all_users in the sys-schema directly to hide database users from TOAD (and other tools).  
 
But keep in mind that databases with modified data dictionary views are no longer supported by Oracle.  
 
 
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 Alex
 
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Re: Restricting access to  ALL_USERS
« Reply #2 on: Dec 19th, 2005, 7:32pm »
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Hi Alex,
 
I've been wondering about how far I can go with modifying something like ALL_USERS.   Oracle has already gone so far as to tell me that I could revoke PUBLIC from it although they didn't mention (and I haven't asked) if they'd still support it.    Just for the sake of discussion, how crazy would it be to customize ALL_USERS?   I have no idea what else would depend on this view and then there are the maintenance issues around upgrades, etc.   Certain tools could have some big issues as well.    
 
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Re: Restricting access to  ALL_USERS
« Reply #3 on: Dec 20th, 2005, 6:56pm »
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Hi,
 
I would not think that it is a good idea to alter SYS owned views in a production environment. This would not be supported by Oracle as Alex says. There are two possibilities from my side.  
 
1 - revoke select on ALL_USERS from PUBLIC and grant back to only those users that need it. This will likely break TOAD. What does TOAD do if it is unable to read ALL_USERS? - have you tried? If it still works then take this approach. I do not use TOAD so cannot test
 
2 - ban TOAD!
 
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Re: Restricting access to  ALL_USERS
« Reply #4 on: Dec 28th, 2005, 12:34am »
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If you are in 10G and have enterprise edition, you could look into the dbms_advanced_rewrite package.
You could 'translate' the SELECT from ALL_USERS into something safer
 
http://asktom.oracle.com/pls/ask/f?p=4950:8:9108124877490766677::NO::F49 50_P8_DISPLAYID,F4950_P8_CRITERIA:16873041382355
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Re: Restricting access to  ALL_USERS
« Reply #5 on: Dec 28th, 2005, 8:41am »
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on Dec 20th, 2005, 6:56pm, Pete Finnigan wrote:
revoke select on ALL_USERS from PUBLIC;

 
sounds wise!
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Re: Restricting access to  ALL_USERS
« Reply #6 on: Dec 28th, 2005, 8:45am »
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on Dec 28th, 2005, 12:34am, gamyers wrote:
dbms_advanced_rewrite package

 
this will maybe work for "select * from all_users", but will not rewrite query like
 
"select username from dual,all_users where dummy is not null";
 
imho, dbms_advanced_rewrite is not supposed to be a security package
 


 
it also require to have  QUERY_REWRITE_INTEGRITY=trusted or QUERY_REWRITE_INTEGRITY=stale_tolerated. When query_rewrite_integrity is enforced (the default and probably the safest), it will not work
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